The Clouds
By Aristophanes
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The Clouds
By Aristophanes
Written 419 B.C.E
Dramatis Personae
STREPSIADES
PHIDIPPIDES
SERVANT OF STREPSIADES
DISCIPLES OF SOCRATES
SOCRATES
JUST DISCOURSE
UNJUST DISCOURSE
PASIAS, a Money-lender
AMYNIAS, another Money-lender
CHORUS OF CLOUDS
Scene
In the background are two houses, that of Strepsiades and that of Socrates, the Thoughtery. The latter is small and dingy; the in, terior of the former is shown and two beds are seen, each occupied.
STREPSIADES
sitting up
Great gods! will these nights never end? will daylight never come? I heard
the cock crow long ago and my slaves are snoring still! Ah! Ah! It wasn't
like this formerly. Curses on the war! has it not done me ills enough?
Now I may not even chastise my own slaves. Again there's this brave lad,
who never wakes the whole long night, but, wrapped in his five coverlets,
farts away to his heart's content.
He lies down
Come! let me nestle in well and snore too, if it be possible....oh! misery,
it's vain to think of sleep with all these expenses, this stable, these
debts, which are devouring me, thanks to this fine cavalier, who only knows
how to look after his long locks, to show himself off in his chariot and
to dream of horses! And I, I am nearly dead, when I see the moon bringing
the third decade in her train and my liability falling due....Slave! light
the lamp and bring me my tablets.
The slave obeys.
Who are all my creditors? Let me see and reckon up the interest. What is
it I owe?....Twelve minae to Pasias....What! twelve minae to Pasias?....Why
did I borrow these? Ah! I know! It was to buy that thoroughbred, which
cost me so much. How I should have prized the stone that had blinded him!
PHIDIPPIDES
in his sleep
That's not fair, Philo! Drive your chariot straight, I say.
STREPSIADES
This is what is destroying me. He raves about horses, even
in his sleep.
PHIDIPPIDES
still sleeping
How many times round the track is the race for the chariots of war?
STREPSIADES
It's your own father you are driving to death....to ruin. Come!
what debt comes next, after that of Pasias?....Three minae to Amynias for
a chariot and its two wheels.
PHIDIPPIDES
still asleep
Give the horse a good roll in the dust and lead him home.
STREPSIADES
Ah! wretched boy! it's my money that you are making roll. My
creditors have distrained on my goods, and here are others again, who demand
security for their interest.
PHIDIPPIDES
awaking
What is the matter with you, father, that you groan and turn about the
whole night through?
STREPSIADES
I have a bum-bailiff in the bedclothes biting me.
PHIDIPPIDES
For pity's sake, let me have a little sleep.
He turns over.
STREPSIADES
Very well, sleep on! but remember that all these debts will
fall back on your shoulders. Oh! curses on the go-between who made me marry
your mother! I lived so happily in the country, a commonplace, everyday
life, but a good and easy one-had not a trouble, not a care, was rich in
bees, in sheep and in olives. Then indeed I had to marry the niece of Megacles,
the son of Megacles; I belonged to the country, she was from the town;
she was a haughty, extravagant woman, a true Coesyra. On the nuptial day,
when I lay beside her, I was reeking of the dregs of the wine-cup, of cheese
and of wool; she was redolent with essences, saffron, voluptuous kisses,
the love of spending, of good cheer and of wanton delights. I will not
say she did nothing; no, she worked hard...to ruin me, and pretending all
the while merely to be showing her the cloak she had woven for me, I said,
"Wife you go too fast about your work, your threads are too closely woven
and you use far too much wool."
A slave enters witk a lamp.
SLAVE
There is no more oil in the lamp.
STREPSIADES
Why then did you light such a thirsty lamp? Come here, I am
going to beat you.
SLAVE
What for?
STREPSIADES
Because you have put in too thick a wick....Later, when we
had this boy, what was to be his name? It was the cause of much quarrelling
with my loving wife. She insisted on having some reference to a horse in
his name, that he should be called Xanthippus, Charippus or Callippides.
I wanted to name him Phidonides after his grandfather. We disputed long,
and finally agreed to style him Phidippides....She used to fondle and coax
him, saying, "Oh! what a joy it will be to me when you have grown up, to
see you, like my father, Megacles, clothed in purple and standing up straight
in your chariot driving your steeds toward the town." And I would say to
him, "When, like your father, you will go, dressed in a skin, to fetch
back your goats from Phelleus." Alas! he never listened to me and his madness
for horses has shattered my fortune.
He gets out of bed.
But by dint of thinking the livelong night, I have discovered a road to
salvation, both miraculous and divine. If he will but follow it, I shall
be out of my trouble! First, however, he must be awakened, but it must
be done as gently as possible. How shall I manage it? Phidippides! my little
Phidippides!
PHIDIPPIDES
awaking again
What is it, father?
STREPSIADES
Kiss me and give me your hand.
PHIDIPPIDES
getting up and doing as his father requests
There! What's it all about?
STREPSIADES
Tell me! do you love me?
PHIDIPPIDES
By Posidon, the equestrian Posidon! yes, I swear I do.
STREPSIADES
Oh, do not, I pray you, invoke this god of horses; he is the
one who is the cause of all my cares. But if you really love me, and with
your whole heart, my boy, believe me.
PHIDIPPIDES
Believe you? about what?
STREPSIADES
Alter your habits forthwith and go and learn what I tell you.
PHIDIPPIDES
Say on, what are your orders?
STREPSIADES
Will you obey me ever so little?
PHIDIPPIDES
By Bacchus, I will obey you.
STREPSIADES
Very well then! Look this way. Do you see that little door
and that little house?
PHIDIPPIDES
Yes, father. But what are you driving at?
STREPSIADES
That is the Thoughtery of wise souls. There they prove that
we are coals enclosed on all sides under a vast snuffer, which is the sky.
If well paid, these men also teach one how to gain law-suits, whether they
be just or not.
PHIDIPPIDES
What do they call themselves?
STREPSIADES
I do not know exactly, but they are deep thinkers and most
admirable people.
PHIDIPPIDES
Bah! the wretches! I know them; you mean those quacks with
pale faces, those barefoot fellows, such as that miserable Socrates and
Chaerephon?
STREPSIADES
Silence! say nothing foolish! If you desire your father not
to die of hunger, join their company and let your horses go.
PHIDIPPIDES
No, by Bacchus! even though you gave me the pheasants that
Leogoras raises.
STREPSIADES
Oh! my beloved son, I beseech you, go and follow their teachings.
PHIDIPPIDES
And what is it I should learn?
STREPSIADES
It seems they have two courses of reasoning, the true and the
false, and that, thanks to the false, the worst law-suits can be gained.
If then you learn this science, which is false, I shall not have to pay
an obolus of all the debts I have contracted on your account.
PHIDIPPIDES
No, I will not do it. I should no longer dare to look at our
gallant horsemen, when I had so ruined my tan.
STREPSIADES
Well then, by Demeter! I will no longer support you, neither
you, nor your team, nor your saddle-horse. Go and hang yourself, I turn
you out of house and home.
PHIDIPPIDES
My uncle Megacles will not leave me without horses; I shall
go to him and laugh at your anger.
He departs. STREPSIADES goes over to SOCRATES' house.
STREPSIADES
One rebuff shall not dishearten me. With the help of the gods
I will enter the Thoughtery and learn myself.
He hesitates.
But at my age, memory has gone and the mind is slow to grasp things. How
can all these fine distinctions, these subtleties be learned?
Making up his mind
Bah! why should I dally thus instead of rapping at the door? Slave, slave!
He knocks and calls.
A DISCIPLE
from within
A plague on you! Who are you?
STREPSIADES
Strepsiades, the son of Phido, of the deme of Cicynna.
DISCIPLE
coming out of the door
You are nothing but an ignorant and illiterate fellow to let fly at the
door with such kicks. You have brought on a miscarriage-of an idea!
STREPSIADES
Pardon me, please; for I live far away from here in the country.
But tell me, what was the idea that miscarried?
DISCIPLE
I may not tell it to any but a disciple.
STREPSIADES
Then tell me without fear, for I have come to study among you.
DISCIPLE
Very well then, but reflect, that these are mysteries. Lately,
a flea bit Chaerephon on the brow and then from there sprang on to the
head of Socrates. Socrates asked Chaerephon, "How many times the length
of its legs does a flea jump?"
STREPSIADES
And how ever did he go about measuring it?
DISCIPLE
Oh! it was most ingenious! He melted some wax, seized the flea
and dipped its two feet in the wax, which, when cooled, left them shod
with true Persian slippers. These he took off and with them measured the
distance.
STREPSIADES
Ah! great Zeus! what a brain! what subtlety!
DISCIPLE
I wonder what then would you say, if you knew another of Socrates'
contrivances?
STREPSIADES
What is it? Pray tell me.
DISCIPLE
Chaerephon of the deme of Sphettia asked him whether he thought
a gnat buzzed through its proboscis or through its anus.
STREPSIADES
And what did he say about the gnat?
DISCIPLE
He said that the gut of the gnat was narrow, and that, in passing
through this tiny passage, the air is driven with force towards the breech;
then after this slender channel, it encountered the rump, which was distended
like a trumpet, and there it resounded sonorously.
STREPSIADES
So the arse of a gnat is a trumpet. Oh! what a splendid arsevation!
Thrice happy Socrates! It would not be difficult to succeed in a law-suit,
knowing so much about a gnat's guts!
DISCIPLE
Not long ago a lizard caused him the loss of a sublime thought.
STREPSIADES
In what way, please?
DISCIPLE
One night, when he was studying the course of the moon and
its revolutions and was gazing open-mouthed at the heavens, a lizard crapped
upon him from the top of the roof.
STREPSIADES
A lizard crapping on Socrates! That's rich!
DISCIPLE
Last night we had nothing to eat.
STREPSIADES
Well, what did he contrive, to secure you some supper?
DISCIPLE
He spread over the table a light layer of cinders, bending
an iron rod the while; then he took up a pair of compasses and at the same
moment unhooked a piece of the victim which was hanging in the palaestra.
STREPSIADES
And we still dare to admire Thales! Open, open this home of
knowledge to me quickly! Haste, haste to show me Socrates; I long to become
his disciple. But do please open the door.
The door opens, revealing the interior of the Thoughtery, in which the
DISCIPLES OF SOCRATES are seen in various postures of meditation and study;
they are pale and emaciated creatures.
Ah! by Heracles! what country are those animals from?
DISCIPLE
Why, what are you astonished at? What do you think they resemble?
STREPSIADES
The captives of Pylos. But why do they look so fixedly on the
ground?
DISCIPLE
They are seeking for what is below the ground.
STREPSIADES
Ah! they're looking for onions. Do not give yourselves so much
trouble; I know where there are some, fine big ones. But what are those
fellows doing, bent all double?
DISCIPLE
They are sounding the abysses of Tartarus.
STREPSIADES
And what are their arses looking at in the heavens?
DISCIPLE
They are studying astronomy on their own account. But come
in so that the master may not find us here.
STREPSIADES
Not yet; not yet; let them not change their position. I want
to tell them my own little matter.
DISCIPLE
But they may not stay too long in the open air and away from
school.
STREPSIADES
pointing to a celestial globe
In the name of all the gods, what is that? Tell me.
DISCIPLE
That is astronomy.
STREPSIADES
pointing to a map
And that?
DISCIPLE
Geometry.
STREPSIADES
What is that used for?
DISCIPLE
To measure the land.
STREPSIADES
But that is apportioned by lot.
DISCIPLE
No, no, I mean the entire earth.
STREPSIADES
Ah! what a funny thing! How generally useful indeed is this
invention!
DISCIPLE
There is the whole surface of the earth. Look! Here is Athens.
STREPSIADES
Athens! you are mistaken; I see no courts in session.
DISCIPLE
Nevertheless it is really and truly the Attic territory.
STREPSIADES
And where are my neighbours of Cicynna?
DISCIPLE
They live here. This is Euboea; you see this island, that is
so long and narrow.
STREPSIADES
I know. Because we and Pericles have stretched it by dint of
squeezing it. And where is Lacedaemon?
DISCIPLE
Lacedaemon? Why, here it is, look.
STREPSIADES
How near it is to us! Think it well over, it must be removed
to a greater distance.
DISCIPLE
But, by Zeus, that is not possible.
STREPSIADES
Then, woe to you! and who is this man suspended up in a basket?
DISCIPLE
That's himself.
STREPSIADES
Who's himself?
DISCIPLE
Socrates.
STREPSIADES
Socrates! Oh! I pray you, call him right loudly for me.
DISCIPLE
Call him yourself; I have no time to waste.
He departs. The machine swings in SOCRATES in a basket.
STREPSIADES
Socrates! my little Socrates!
SOCRATES
loftily
Mortal, what do you want with me?
STREPSIADES
First, what are you doing up there? Tell me, I beseech you.
SOCRATES
POMPOUSLY
I am traversing the air and contemplating the sun.
STREPSIADES
Thus it's not on the solid ground, but from the height of this
basket, that you slight the gods, if indeed....
SOCRATES
I have to suspend my brain and mingle the subtle essence of
my mind with this air, which is of the like nature, in order clearly to
penetrate the things of heaven. I should have discovered nothing, had I
remained on the ground to consider from below the things that are above;
for the earth by its force attracts the sap of the mind to itself. It's
just the same with the watercress.
STREPSIADES
What? Does the mind attract the sap of the watercress? Ah!
my dear little Socrates, come down to me! I have come to ask you for lessons.
SOCRATES
descending
And for what lessons?
STREPSIADES
I want to learn how to speak. I have borrowed money, and my
merciles creditors do not leave me a moment's peace; all my goods are at
stake.
SOCRATES
And how was it you did not see that you were getting so much
into debt?
STREPSIADES
My ruin has been the madness for horses, a most rapacious evil;
but teach me one of your two methods of reasoning, the one whose object
is not to repay anything, and, may the gods bear witness, that I am ready
to pay any fee you may name.
SOCRATES
By which gods will you swear? To begin with, the gods are not
a coin current with us.
STREPSIADES
But what do you swear by then? By the iron money of Byzantium?
SOCRATES
Do you really wish to know the truth of celestial matters?
STREPSIADES
Why, yes, if it's possible.
SOCRATES
....and to converse with the clouds, who are our genii?
STREPSIADES
Without a doubt.
SOCRATES
Then be seated on this sacred couch.
STREPSIADES
sitting down
I am seated.
SOCRATES
Now take this chaplet.
STREPSIADES
Why a chaplet? Alas! Socrates, would you sacrifice me, like
Athamas?
SOCRATES
No, these are the rites of initiation.
STREPSIADES
And what is it I am to gain?
SOCRATES
You will become a thorough rattle-pate, a hardened old stager,
the fine flour of the talkers....But come, keep quiet.
STREPSIADES
By Zeus! That's no lie! Soon I shall be nothing but wheat-flour,
if you powder me in that fashion.
SOCRATES
Silence, old man, give heed to the prayers.
In an hierophantic tone
Oh! most mighty king, the boundless air, that keepest the earth suspended
in space, thou bright Aether and ye venerable goddesses, the Clouds, who
carry in your loins the thunder and the lightning, arise, ye sovereign
powers and manifest yourselves in the celestial spheres to the eyes of
your sage.
STREPSIADES
Not yet! Wait a bit, till I fold my mantle double, so as not
to get wet. And to think that I did not even bring my travelling cap! What
a misfortune!
SOCRATES
ignoring this
Come, oh! Clouds, whom I adore, come and show yourselves to this man, whether
you be resting on the sacred summits of Olympus, crowned with hoar-frost,
or tarrying in the gardens of Ocean, your father, forming sacred choruses
with the Nymphs; whether you be gathering the waves of the Nile in golden
vases or dwelling in the Maeotic marsh or on the snowy rocks of Mimas,
hearken to my prayer and accept my offering. May these sacrifices be pleasing
to you.
Amidst rumblings of thunder the CHORUS OF CLOUDS
appears.
CHORUS
singing
Eternal Clouds, let us appear; let us arise from the roaring depths of
Ocean, our father; let us fly towards the lofty mountains, spread our damp
wings over their forest-laden summits, whence we will dominate the distant
valleys, the harvest fed by the sacred earth, the murmur of the divine
streams and the resounding waves of the sea, which the unwearying orb lights
up with its glittering beams. But let us shake off the rainy fogs, which
hide our immortal beauty and sweep the earth from afar with our gaze.
SOCRATES
Oh, venerated goddesses, yes, you are answering my call!
To STREPSIADES.
Did you hear their voices mingling with the awful growling of the thunder?
STREPSIADES
Oh! adorable Clouds, I revere you and I too am going to let
off my thunder, so greatly has your own affrighted me.
He farts.
Faith! whether permitted or not, I must, I must crap!
SOCRATES
No scoffing; do not copy those damned comic poets. Come, silence!
a numerous host of goddesses approaches with songs.
CHORUS
singing
Virgins, who pour forth the rains, let us move toward Attica, the rich
country of Pallas, the home of the brave; let us visit the dear land of
Cecrops, where the secret rites are celebrated, where the mysterious sanctuary
flies open to the initiate.... What victims are offered there to the deities
of heaven! What glorious temples! What statues! What holy prayers to the
rulers of Olympus! At every season nothing but sacred festivals, garlanded
victims, is to be seen. Then Spring brings round again the joyous feasts
of Dionysus, the harmonious contests of the choruses and the serious melodies
of the flute.
STREPSIADES
By Zeus! Tell me, Socrates, I pray you, who are these women,
whose language is so solemn; can they be demi-goddesses?
SOCRATES
Not at all. They are the Clouds of heaven, great goddesses
for the lazy; to them we owe all, thoughts, speeches, trickery, roguery,
boasting, lies, sagacity.
STREPSIADES
Ah! that was why, as I listened to them, my mind spread out
its wings; it burns to babble about trifles, to maintain worthless arguments,
to voice its petty reasons, to contradict, to tease some opponent. But
are they not going to show themselves? I should like to see them, were
it possible.
SOCRATES
Well, look this way in the direction of Parnes; I already see
those who are slowly descending.
STREPSIADES
But where, where? Show them to me.
SOCRATES
They are advancing in a throng, following an oblique path across
the dales and thickets.
STREPSIADES
Strange! I can see nothing.
SOCRATES
There, close to the entrance.
STREPSIADES
Hardly, if at all, can I distinguish them.
SOCRATES
You must see them clearly now, unless your eyes are filled
with gum as thick as pumpkins.
STREPSIADES
Aye, undoubtedly! Oh! the venerable goddesses! Why, they fill
up the entire stage.
SOCRATES
And you did not know, you never suspected, that they were goddesses?
STREPSIADES
No, indeed; I thought the Clouds were only fog, dew and vapour.
SOCRATES
But what you certainly do not know is that they are the support
of a crowd of quacks, the diviners, who were sent to Thurium, the notorious
physicians, the well-combed fops, who load their fingers with rings down
to the nails, and the braggarts, who write dithyrambic verses, all these
are idlers whom the Clouds provide a living for, because they sing them
in their verses.
STREPSIADES
It is then for this that they praise "the rapid flight of the
moist clouds, which veil the brightness of day" and "the waving locks of
the hundred-headed Typho" and "the impetuous tempests, which float through
the heavens, like birds of prey with aerial wings loaded with mists" and
"the rains, the dew, which the clouds outpour." As a reward for these fine
phrases they bolt well-grown, tasty mullet and delicate thrushes.
SOCRATES
Yes, thanks to these. And is it not right and meet?
STREPSIADES
Tell me then why, if these really are the Clouds, they so very
much resemble mortals. This is not their usual form.
SOCRATES
What are they like then?
STREPSIADES
I don't know exactly; well, they are like great packs of wool,
but not like women-no, not in the least....And these have noses.
SOCRATES
Answer my questions.
STREPSIADES
Willingly! Go on, I am listening.
SOCRATES
Have you not sometimes seen clouds in the sky like a centaur,
a leopard, a wolf or a bull?
STREPSIADES
Why, certainly I have, but what of that?
SOCRATES
They take what metamorphosis they like. If they see a debauchee
with long flowing locks and hairy as a beast, like the son of Xenophantes,
they take the form of a Centaur in derision of his shameful passion.
STREPSIADES
And when they see Simon, that thiever of public money, what
do they do then?
SOCRATES
To picture him to the life, they turn at once into wolves.
STREPSIADES
So that was why yesterday, when they saw Cleonymus, who cast
away his buckler because he is the veriest poltroon amongst men, they changed
into deer.
SOCRATES
And to-day they have seen Clisthenes; you see....they are women
STREPSIADES
Hail, sovereign goddesses, and if ever you have let your celestial
voice be heard by mortal ears, speak to me, oh! speak to me, ye all-powerful
queens.
CHORUS-LEADER
Hail! veteran of the ancient times, you who burn to instruct
yourself in fine language. And you, great high-priest of subtle nonsense,
tell us; your desire. To you and Prodicus alone of all the hollow orationers
of to-day have we lent an ear-to Prodicus, because of his knowledge and
his great wisdom, and to you, because you walk with head erect, a confident
look, barefooted, resigned to everything and proud of our protection.
STREPSIADES
Oh! Earth! What august utterances! how sacred! how wondrous!
SOCRATES
That is because these are the only goddesses; all the rest
are pure myth.
STREPSIADES
But by the Earth! is our father, Zeus, the Olympian, not a
god?
SOCRATES
Zeus! what Zeus! Are you mad? There is no Zeus.
STREPSIADES
What are you saying now? Who causes the rain to fall? Answer
me that!
SOCRATES
Why, these, and I will prove it. Have you ever seen it raining
without clouds? Let Zeus then cause rain with a clear sky and without their
presence!
STREPSIADES
By Apollo! that is powerfully argued! For my own part, I always
thought it was Zeus pissing into a sieve. But tell me, who is it makes
the thunder, which I so much dread?
SOCRATES
These, when they roll one over the other.
STREPSIADES
But how can that be? you most daring among men!
SOCRATES
Being full of water, and forced to move along, they are of
necessity precipitated in rain, being fully distended with moisture from
the regions where they have been floating; hence they bump each other heavily
and burst with great noise.
STREPSIADES
But is it not Zeus who forces them to move?
SOCRATES
Not at all; it's the aerial Whirlwind.
STREPSIADES
The Whirlwind! ah! I did not know that. So Zeus, it seems,
has no existence, and its the Whirlwind that reigns in his stead? But you
have not yet told me what makes the roll of the thunder?
SOCRATES
Have you not understood me then? I tell you, that the Clouds,
when full of rain, bump against one another, and that, being inordinately
swollen out, they burst with a great noise.
STREPSIADES
How can you make me credit that?
SOCRATES
Take yourself as an example. When you have heartily gorged
on stew at the Panathenaea, you get throes of stomach-ache and then suddenly
your belly resounds with prolonged rumbling.
STREPSIADES
Yes, yes, by Apollo I suffer, I get colic, then the stew sets
to rumbling like thunder and finally bursts forth with a terrific noise.
At first, it's but a little gurgling pappax, pappax! then it increases,
papapappax! and when I take my crap, why, it's thunder indeed, papapappax!
pappax!! papapappax!!! just like the clouds.
SOCRATES
Well then, reflect what a noise is produced by your belly,
which is but small. Shall not the air, which is boundless, produce these
mighty claps of thunder?
STREPSIADES
And this is why the names are so much alike: crap and clap.
But tell me this. Whence comes the lightning, the dazzling flame, which
at times consumes the man it strikes, at others hardly singes him. Is it
not plain, that Zeus is hurling it at the perjurers?
SOCRATES
Out upon the fool! the driveller! he still savours of the golden
age! If Zeus strikes at the perjurers, why has he not blasted Simon, Cleonymus
and Theorus? Of a surety, greater perjurers cannot exist. No, he strikes
his own temple, and Sunium, the promontory of Athens, and the towering
oaks. Now, why should he do that? An oak is no perjurer.
STREPSIADES
I cannot tell, but it seems to me well argued. What is the
lightning then?
SOCRATES
When a dry wind ascends to the Clouds and gets shut into them,
it blows them out like a bladder; finally, being too confined, it bursts
them, escapes with fierce violence and a roar to flash into flame by reason
of its own impetuosity.
STREPSIADES
Ah, that's just what happened to me one day. It was at the
feast of Zeus! I was cooking a sow's belly for my family and I had forgotten
to slit it open. It swelled out and, suddenly bursting, discharged itself
right into my eyes and burnt my face.
LEADER OF THE CHORUS
Oh, mortal, you who desire to instruct yourself in our great
wisdom, the Athenians, the Greeks will envy you your good fortune. Only
you must have the memory and ardour for study, you must know how to stand
the tests, hold your own, go forward without feeling fatigue, caring but
little for food, abstaining from wine, gymnastic exercises and other similar
follies, in fact, you must believe as every man of intellect should, that
the greatest of all blessings is to live and think more clearly than the
vulgar herd, to shine in the contests of words.
STREPSIADES
If it be a question of hardiness for labour, of spending whole
nights at work, of living sparingly, of fighting my stomach and only eating
chickpease, rest assured, I am as hard as an anvil.
SOCRATES
Henceforward, following our example, you will recognize no
other gods but Chaos, the Clouds and the Tongue, these three alone.
STREPSIADES
I would not speak to the others, even if I met them in the
street; not a single sacrifice, not a libation, not a grain of incense
for them!
LEADER OF THE CHORUS
Tell us boldly then what you want of us; you cannot fail to
succeed. If you honour and revere us and if you are resolved to become
a clever man.
STREPSIADES
Oh, sovereign goddesses, it is only a very small favour that
I ask of you; grant that I may outdistance all the Greeks by a hundred
stadia in the art of speaking.
LEADER OF THE CHORUS
We grant you this, and henceforward no eloquence shall more
often succeed with the people than your own.
STREPSIADES
May the gods shield me from possessing great eloquence! That's
not what I want. I want to be able to turn bad law-suits to my own advantage
and to slip through the fingers of my creditors.
LEADER OF THE CHORUS
It shall be as you wish, for your ambitions are modest. Commit
yourself fearlessly to our ministers, the sophists.
STREPSIADES
This I will do, for I trust in you. Moreover there is no drawing
back, what with these cursed horses and this marriage, which has eaten
up my vitals.
More and more volubly from here to the end of speech
So let them do with me as they will; I yield my body to them. Come blows,
come hunger, thirst, heat or cold, little matters it to me; they may flay
me, if I only escape my debts, if only I win the reputation of being a
bold rascal, a fine speaker, impudent, shameless, a braggart, and adept
at stringing lies, an old stager at quibbles, a complete table of laws,
a thorough rattle, a fox to slip through any hole; supple as a leathern
strap, slippery as an eel, an artful fellow, a blusterer, a villain; a
knave with a hundred faces, cunning, intolerable, a gluttonous dog. With
such epithets do I seek to be greeted; on these terms they can treat me
as they choose, and, if they wish, by Demeter! they can turn me into sausages
and serve me up to the philosophers.
CHORUS
singing
Here have we a bold and well-disposed pupil indeed. When we have taught
you, your glory among the mortals will reach even to the skies.
STREPSIADES
singing
Wherein will that profit me?
CHORUS
singing
You will pass your whole life among us and will be the most envied of men.
STREPSIADES
singing
Shall I really ever see such happiness?
CHORUS
singing
Clients will be everlastingly besieging your door in crowds, burning to
get at you, to explain their business to you and to consult you about their
suits, which, in return for your ability, will bring you in great sums.
LEADER OF THE CHORUS
But, Socrates, begin the lessons you want to teach this old
man; rouse his mind, try the strength of his intelligence.
SOCRATES
Come, tell me the kind of mind you have; it's important that
I know this, that I may order my batteries against you in the right fashion.
STREPSIADES
Eh, what! in the name of the gods, are you purposing to assault
me then?
SOCRATES
No. I only wish to ask you some questions. Have you any memory?
STREPSIADES
That depends: if anything is owed me, my memory is excellent,
but if I owe, alas! I have none whatever.
SOCRATES
Have you a natural gift for speaking?
STREPSIADES
For speaking, no; for cheating, yes.
SOCRATES
How will you be able to learn then?
STREPSIADES
Very easily, have no fear.
SOCRATES
Thus, when I throw forth some philosophical thought anent things
celestial., you will seize it in its very flight?
STREPSIADES
Then I am to snap up wisdom much as a dog snaps up a morsel?
SOCRATES
aside
Oh! the ignoramus! the barbarian!
to STREPSIADES
I greatly fear, old man, it will be necessary for me to have recourse to
blows. Now, let me hear what you do when you are beaten.
STREPSIADES
I receive the blow, then wait a moment, take my witnesses and
finally summon my assailant at law.
SOCRATES
Come, take off your cloak.
STREPSIADES
Have I robbed you of anything?
SOCRATES
No. but the usual thing is to enter the school without your
cloak.
STREPSIADES
But I have not come here to look for stolen goods.
SOCRATES
Off with it, fool!
STREPSIADES
He obeys.
Tell me, if I prove thoroughly attentive and learn with zeal, which O;
your disciples shall I resemble, do you think?
SOCRATES
You will be the image of Chaerephon.
STREPSIADES
Ah! unhappy me! Shall I then be only half alive?
SOCRATES
A truce to this chatter! follow me and no more of it.
STREPSIADES
First give me a honey-cake, for to descend down there sets
me all a-tremble; it looks like the cave of Trophonius.
SOCRATES
But get in with you! What reason have you for thus dallying
at the door?
They go into the Thoughtery.
LEADER OF THE CHORUS
Good luck! you have courage; may you succeed, you, who, though
already so advanced in years, wish to instruct your mind with new studies
and practise it in wisdom!
The CHORUS turns and faces the Audience.
Spectators! By Bacchus, whose servant I am, I will frankly tell you the
truth. May I secure both victory and renown as certainly as I hold you
for adept critics and as I regard this comedy as my best. I wished to give
you the first view of a work, which had cost me much trouble, but which
I withdrew, unjustly beaten by unskilful rivals. It is you, oh, enlightened
public, for whom I have prepared my piece, that I reproach with this. Nevertheless
I shall never willingly cease to seek the approval of the discerning. I
have not forgotten the day, when men, whom one is happy to have for an
audience, received my Virtuous Young Man and my Paederast with so much
favour in this very place. Then as yet virgin, my Muse had not attained
the age for maternity; she had to expose her first-born for another to
adopt, and it has since grown up under your generous patronage. Ever since
you have as good as sworn me your faithful alliance. Thus, like the Electra
of the poets, my comedy has come to seek you to-day, hoping again to encounter
such enlightened spectators. As far away as she can discern her Orestes,
she will be able to recognize him by his curly head. And note her modest
demeanour! She has not sewn on a piece of hanging leather, thick and reddened
at the end, to cause laughter among the children; she does not rail at
the bald, neither does she dance the cordax; no old man is seen, who, while
uttering his lines, batters his questioner with a stick to make his poor
jests pass muster. She does not rush upon the scene carrying a torch and
screaming, 'Iou! Iou!' No, she relies upon herself and her verses....My
value is so well known, that I take no further pride in it. I do not seek
to deceive you, by reproducing the same subjects two or three times; I
always invent fresh themes to present before you, themes that have no relation
to each other and that are all clever. I attacked Cleon to his face and
when he was all-powerful; but he has fallen, and now I have no desire to
kick him when he is down. My rivals, on the contrary, now that this wretched
Hyperbolus has given them the cue, have never ceased setting upon both
him and his mother. First Eupolis presented his 'Maricas'; this was simply
my 'Knights,' whom this plagiarist had clumsily furbished up again by adding
to the piece an old drunken woman, so that she might dance the cordax.
It was an old idea, taken from Phrynichus, who caused his old hag to be
devoured by a monster of the deep. Then Hermippus fell foul of Hyperbolus
and now all the others fall upon him and repeat my comparison of the eels.
May those who find amusement in their pieces not be pleased with mine,
but as for you, who love and applaud my inventions, why, posterity will
praise your good taste.
FIRST SEMI-CHORUS
singing
Oh, ruler of Olympus, all-powerful king of the gods, great Zeus, it is
thou whom I first invoke; protect this chorus; and thou too, Posidon, whose
dread trident upheaves at the will of thy anger both the bowels of the
earth and the salty waves of the ocean. I invoke my illustrious father,
the divine Aether, the universal sustainer of life, and Phoebus, who, from
the summit of his chariot, sets the world aflame with his dazzling rays,
Phoebus, a mighty deity amongst the gods and adored amongst mortals.
LEADER OF FIRST SEMI-CHORUS
Most wise spectators, lend us all your attention. Give heed
to our just reproaches. There exist no gods to whom this city owes more
than it does to us, whom alone you forget. Not a sacrifice, not a libation
is there for those who protect you! Have you decreed some mad expedition?
Well! we thunder or we fall down in rain. When you chose that enemy of
heaven, the Paphlagonian tanner, for a general, we knitted our brow, we
caused our wrath to break out; the lightning shot forth, the thunder pealed,
the moon deserted her course and the sun at once veiled his beam threatening,
no longer to give you light, if Cleon became general. Nevertheless you
elected him; it is said, Athens never resolves upon some fatal step but
the gods turn these errors into her greatest gain. Do you wish that his
election should even now be a success for you? It is a very simple thing
to do; condemn this rapacious gull named Cleon for bribery and extortion,
fit a wooden collar tight round his neck, and your error will be rectified
and the commonweal will at once regain its old prosperity.
SECOND SEMI-CHORUS
singing
Aid me also, Phoebus, god of Delos, who reignest on the cragged peaks of
Cynthia; and thou, happy virgin, to whom the Lydian damsels offer pompous
sacrifice in a temple; of gold; and thou, goddess of our country, Athene,
armed with the aegis, the protectress of Athens; and thou, who, surrounded
by the bacchants of Delphi; roamest over the rocks of Parnassus shaking
the flame of thy resinous torch, thou, Bacchus, the god of revel and joy.
LEADER OF SECOND SEMI-CHORUS
As we were preparing to come here, we were hailed by the Moon
and were charged to wish joy and happiness both to the Athenians and to
their allies; further, she said that she was enraged and that you treated
her very shamefully, her, who does not pay you in words alone, but who
renders you all real benefits. Firstly, thanks to her, you save at least
a drachma each month for lights, for each, as he is leaving home at night,
says, "Slave, buy no torches, for the moonlight is beautiful,"-not to name
a thousand other benefits. Nevertheless you do not reckon the days correctly
and your calendar is naught but confusion. Consequently the gods load her
with threats each time they get home and are disappointed of their meal,
because the festival has not been kept in the regular order of time. When
you should be sacrificing, you are putting to the torture or administering
justice. And often, we others, the gods, are fasting in token of mourning
for the death of Memnon or Sarpedon, while you are devoting yourselves
to joyous libations. It is for this, that last year, when the lot would
have invested Hyperbolus with the duty of Amphictyon, we took his crown
from him, to teach him that time must be divided according to the phases
of the moon.
SOCRATES
coming out
By Respiration, the Breath of Life! By Chaos! By the Air! I have never
seen a man so gross, so inept, so stupid, so forgetful. All the little
quibbles, which I teach him, he forgets even before he has learnt them.
Yet I will not give it up, I will make him come out here into the open
air. Where are you, Strepsiades? Come, bring your couch out here.
STREPSIADES
from within
But the bugs will not allow me to bring it.
SOCRATES
Have done with such nonsense! place it there and pay attention.
STREPSIADES
coming out, with the bed
Well, here I am.
SOCRATES
Good! Which science of all those you have never been taught,
do you wish to learn first? The measures, the rhythms or the verses?
STREPSIADES
Why, the measures; the flour dealer cheated me out of two choenixes
the other day.
SOCRATES
It's not about that I ask you, but which, according to you,
is the best measure, the trimeter or the tetrameter?
STREPSIADES
The one I prefer is the semisextarius.
SOCRATES
You talk nonsense, my good fellow.
STREPSIADES
I will wager your tetrameter is the semisextarius.
SOCRATES
Plague seize the dunce and the fool! Come, perchance you will
learn the rhythms quicker.
STREPSIADES
Will the rhythms supply me with food?
SOCRATES
First they will help you to be pleasant in company, then to
know what is meant by enhoplian rhythm and what by the dactylic.
STREPSIADES
Of the dactyl? I know that quite well.
SOCRATES
What is it then, other than this finger here?
STREPSIADES
Formerly, when a child, I used this one.
SOCRATES
You are as low-minded as you are stupid.
STREPSIADES
But, wretched man, I do not want to learn all this.
SOCRATES
Then what do you want to know?
STREPSIADES
Not that, not that, but the art of false reasoning.
SOCRATES
But you must first learn other things. Come, what are the male
quadrupeds?
STREPSIADES
Oh! I know the males thoroughly. Do you take me for a fool
then? The ram, the buck, the bull, the dog, the pigeon.
SOCRATES
Do you see what you are doing; is not the female pigeon called
the same as the male?
STREPSIADES
How else? Come now!
SOCRATES
How else? With you then it's pigeon and pigeon!
STREPSIADES
That's right, by Posidon! but what names do you want me to
give them?
SOCRATES
Term the female pigeonnette and the male pigeon.
STREPSIADES
Pigeonnette! hah! by the Air! That's splendid! for that lesson
bring out your kneading-trough and I will fill him with flour to the brim.
SOCRATES
There you are wrong again; you make trough masculine and it
should be feminine.
STREPSIADES
What? if I say, him, do I make the trough masculine?
SOCRATES
Assuredly! would you not say him for Cleonymus?
STREPSIADES
Well?
SOCRATES
Then trough is of the same gender as Cleonymus?
STREPSIADES
My good man! Cleonymus never had a kneading-trough; he used
a round mortar for the purpose. But come, tell me what I should say!
SOCRATES
For trough you should say her as you would for Soctrate.
STREPSIADES
Her?
SOCRATES
In this manner you make it truly female.
STREPSIADES
That's it! Her for trough and her for Cleonymus.
SOCRATE,"
Now I must teach you to distinguish the masculine proper names from
those that are feminine.
STREPSIADES
Ah! I know the female names well.
SOCRATES
Name some then.
STREPSIADES
Lysilla, Philinna, Clitagora, Demetria.
SOCRATES
And what are masculine names?
STREPSIADES
They are are countless-Philoxenus, Melesias, Amynias.
SOCRATES
But, wretched man, the last two are not masculine.
STREPSIADES
You do not count them as masculine?
SOCRATES
Not at all. If you met Amynias, how would you hail him?
STREPSIADES
How? Why, I should shout, "Hi, there, Amynia!
SOCRATES
Do you see? it's a female name that you give him.
STREPSIADES
And is it not rightly done, since he refuses military service?
But what use is there in learning what we all know?
SOCRATES
You know nothing about it. Come, lie down there.
STREPSIADES
What for?
SOCRATES
Ponder awhile over matters that interest you.
STREPSIADES
Oh! I pray you, not there but, if I must lie down and ponder,
let me lie on the ground.
SOCRATES
That's out of the question. Come! on the couch!
STREPSIADES
as he lies down
What cruel fate! What a torture the bugs will this day put me to!
Socrates turns aside.
CHORUS
singing
Ponder and examine closely, gather your thoughts together, let your mind
turn to every side of things; if you meet with a difficulty, spring quickly
to some other idea; above all, keep your eyes away from all gentle sleep.
STREPSIADES
singing
Ow, Wow, Wow, Wow is me!
CHORUS
singing
What ails you? why do you cry so?
STREPSIADES
Oh! I am a dead man! Here are these cursed Corinthians advancing
upon me from all corners of the couch; they are biting me, they are gnawing
at my sides, they are drinking all my blood, they are yanking of my balls,
they are digging into my arse, they are killing me!
LEADER OF THE CHORUS
Not so much wailing and clamour, if you please.
STREPSIADES
How can I obey? I have lost my money and my complexion, my
blood and my slippers, and to cap my misery, I must keep awake on this
couch, when scarce a breath of life is left in me.
A brief interval of silence ensues.
SOCRATES
Well now! what are you doing? are you reflecting?
STREPSIADES
Yes, by Posidon!
SOCRATES
What about?
STREPSIADES
Whether the bugs will entirely devour me.
SOCRATES
May death seize you, accursed man!
He turns aside again.
STREPSIADES
Ah it has already.
SOCRATES
Come, no giving way! Cover up your head; the thing to do is
to find an ingenious alternative.
STREPSIADES
An alternative! ah! I only wish one would come to me from within
these coverlets!
Another interval of silence ensues.
SOCRATES
Wait! let us see what our fellow is doing! Ho! are you asleep?
STREPSIADES
No, by Apollo!
SOCRATES
Have you got hold of anything?
STREPSIADES
No, nothing whatever.
SOCRATES
Nothing at all?
STREPSIADES
No, nothing except my tool, which I've got in my hand.
SOCRATES
Aren't you going to cover your head immediately and ponder?
STREPSIADES
On what? Come, Socrates, tell me.
SOCRATES
Think first what you want, and then tell me.
STREPSIADES
But I have told you a thousand times what I want. Not to pay
any of my creditors.
SOCRATES
Come, wrap yourself up; concentrate your mind, which wanders
to lightly; study every detail, scheme and examine thoroughly.
STREPSIADES
Alas! Alas!
SOCRATES
Keep still, and if any notion troubles you, put it quickly
aside, then resume it and think over it again.
STREPSIADES
My dear little Socrates!
SOCRATES
What is it, old greybeard?
STREPSIADES
I have a scheme for not paying my debts.
SOCRATES
Let us hear it.
STREPSIADES
Tell me, if I purchased a Thessalian witch, I could make the
moon descend during the night and shut it, like a mirror, into a round
box and there keep it carefully....
SOCRATES
How would you gain by that?
STREPSIADES
How? why, if the moon did not rise, I would have no interest
to pay.
SOCRATES
Why so?
STREPSIADES
Because money is lent by the month.
SOCRATES
Good! but I am going to propose another trick to you. If you
were condemned to pay five talents, how would you manage to quash that
verdict? Tell me.
STREPSIADES
How? how? I don't know, I must think.
SOCRATES
Do you always shut your thoughts within yourself? Let your
ideas fly in the air, like a may-bug, tied by the foot with a thread.
STREPSIADES
I have found a very clever way to annul that conviction; you
will admit that much yourself.
SOCRATES
What is it?
STREPSIADES
Have you ever seen a beautiful, transparent stone at the druggists',
with which you may kindle fire?
SOCRATES
You mean a crystal lens.
STREPSIADES
That's right. Well, now if I placed myself with this stone
in the sun and a long way off from the clerk, while he was writing out
the conviction, I could make all the wax, upon which the words were written,
melt.
SOCRATES
Well thought out, by the Graces!
STREPSIADES
Ah! I am delighted to have annulled the decree that was to
cost me five talents.
SOCRATES
Come, take up this next question quickly.
STREPSIADES
Which?
SOCRATES
If, when summoned to court, you were in danger of losing your
case for want of witnesses, how would you make the conviction fall upon
your opponent?
STREPSIADES
That's very simple and easy.
SOCRATES
Let me hear.
STREPSIADES
This way. If another case had to be pleaded before mine was
called, I should run and hang myself.
SOCRATES
You talk rubbish!
STREPSIADES
Not so, by the gods! if I were dead, no action could lie against
me.
SOCRATES
You are merely beating the air. Get out! I will give you no
more lessons.
STREPSIADES
imploringly
Why not? Oh! Socrates! in the name of the gods!
SOCRATES
But you forget as fast as you learn. Come, what was the thing
I taught you first? Tell me.
STREPSIADES
Ah let me see. What was the first thing? What was it then?
Ah! that thing in which we knead the bread, oh! my god! what do you call
it?
SOCRATES
Plague take the most forgetful and silliest of old addlepates!
STREPSIADES
Alas! what a calamity! what will become of me? I am undone
if I do not learn how to ply my tongue. Oh! Clouds! give me good advice.
CHORUS-LEADER
Old man, we counsel you, if you have brought up a son, to send
him to learn in your stead.
STREPSIADES
Undoubtedly I have a son, as well endowed as the best, but
he is unwilling to learn. What will become of me?
CHORUS-LEADER
And you don't make him obey you?
STREPSIADES
You see, he is big and strong; moreover, through his mother
he is a descendant of those fine birds, the race of Coesyra. Nevertheless,
I will go and find him, and if he refuses, I will turn him out of the house.
Go in, Socrates, and wait for me awhile.
SOCRATES goes into the Thoughtery, STREPSIADES into his own
house.
CHORUS
singing
Do you understand, Socrates, that thanks to us you will be loaded with
benefits? Here is a man, ready to obey you in all things. You see how he
is carried away with admiration and enthusiasm. Profit by it to clip him
as short as possible; fine chances are all too quickly gone.
STREPSIADES
coming out of his house and pushing his son in front of
him
No, by the Clouds! you stay here no longer; go and devour the ruins of
your uncle Megacles' fortune.
PHIDIPPIDES
Oh! my poor father! what has happened to you? By the
Olympian
Zeus! You are no longer in your senses!
STREPSIADES
Look! "the Olympian Zeus." Oh! you fool! to believe in Zeus
at your age!
PHIDIPPIDES
What is there in that to make you laugh?
STREPSIADES
You are then a tiny little child, if you credit such antiquated
rubbish! But come here, that I may teach you; I will tell you something
very necessary to know to be a man; but do not repeat it to anybody.
PHIDIPPIDES
Tell me, what is it?
STREPSIADES
Just now you swore by Zeus.
PHIDIPPIDES
Sure I did.
STREPSIADES
Do you see how good it is to learn? Phidippides, there is no
Zeus.
PHIDIPPIDES
What is there then?
STREPSIADES
The Whirlwind has driven out Zeus and is King now.
PHIDIPPIDES
What drivel!
STREPSIADES
You must realize that it is true.
PHIDIPPIDES
And who says so?
STREPSIADES
Socrates, the Melian, and Chaerephon, who knows how to measure
the jump of a flea.
PHIDIPPIDES
Have you reached such a pitch of madness that you believe those
bilious fellows?
STREPSIADES
Use better language, and do not insult men who are clever and
full of wisdom, who, to economize, never shave, shun the gymnasia and never
go to the baths, while you, you only await my death to eat up my wealth.
But come, come as quickly as you can to learn in my stead.
PHIDIPPIDES
And what good can be learnt of them?
STREPSIADES
What good indeed? Why, all human knowledge. Firstly, you will
know yourself grossly ignorant. But await me here awhile.
He goes back into his house.
PHIDIPPIDES
Alas! what is to be done? Father has lost his wits. Must I
have him certificated for lunacy, or must I order his coffin?
STREPSIADES
returning with a bird in each hand
Come! what kind of bird is this? Tell me.
PHIDIPPIDES
A pigeon.
STREPSIADES
Good! And this female?
PHIDIPPIDES
A pigeon.
STREPSIADES
The same for both? You make me laugh! In the future you must
call this one a pigeonnette and the other a pigeon.
PHIDIPPIDES
A pigeonnette! These then are the fine things you have just
learnt at the school of these sons of Earth!
STREPSIADES
And many others; but what I learnt I forgot at once, because
I am to old.
PHIDIPPIDES
So this is why you have lost your cloak?
STREPSIADES
I have not lost it, I have consecrated it to Philosophy.
PHIDIPPIDES
And what have you done with your sandals, you poor fool?
STREPSIADES
If I have lost them, it is for what was necessary, just as
Pericles did. But come, move yourself, let us go in; if necessary, do wrong
to obey your father. When you were six years old and still lisped, I was
the one who obeyed you. I remember at the feasts of Zeus you had a consuming
wish for a little chariot and I bought it for you with the first obolus
which I received as a juryman in the courts.
PHIDIPPIDES
You will soon repent of what you ask me to do.
STREPSIADES
Oh! now I am happy! He obeys.
loudly
Come, Socrates, come! Come out quick! Here I am bringing you my son; he
refused, but I have persuaded him.
SOCRATES
Why, he is but a child yet. He is not used to these baskets,
in which we suspend our minds.
PHIDIPPIDES
To make you better used to them, I would you were hung.
STREPSIADES
A curse upon you! you insult your master!
SOCRATES
"I would you were hung!" What a stupid speech! and so emphatically
spoken! How can one ever get out of an accusation with such a tone, summon
witnesses or touch or convince? And yet when we think, Hyperbolus learnt
all this for one talent!
STREPSIADES
Rest undisturbed and teach him. He has a most intelligent nature.
Even when quite little he amused himself at home with making houses, carving
boats, constructing little chariots of leather, and understood wonderfully
how to make frogs out of pomegranate rinds. Teach him both methods of reasoning,
the strong and also the weak, which by false arguments triumphs over the
strong; if not the two, at least the false, and that in every possible
way.
SOCRATES
The Just and Unjust Discourse themselves shall instruct him.
I shall leave you.
STREPSIADES
But forget it not, he must always, always be able to confound
the true.
Socrates enters the Thoughtery; a moment later the JUST and the UNJUST
DISCOURSE come out; they are quarrelling violently.
JUST DISCOURSE
Come here! Shameless as you may be, will you dare to show your
face to the spectators?
UNJUST DISCOURSE
Take me where you will. I seek a throng, so that I may the
better annihilate you.
JUST DISCOURSE
Annihilate me! Do you forget who you are?
UNJUST DISCOURSE
I am Reasoning.
JUST DISCOURSE
Yes, the weaker Reasoning."
UNJUST DISCOURSE
But I triumph over you, who claim to be the stronger.
JUST DISCOURSE
By what cunning shifts, pray?
UNJUST DISCOURSE
By the invention of new maxims.
JUST DISCOURSE
.... which are received with favour by these fools.
He points to the audience.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
Say rather, by these wise men.
JUST DISCOURSE
I am going to destroy you mercilessly.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
How pray? Let us see you do it.
JUST DISCOURSE
By saying what is true.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
I shall retort and shall very soon have the better of you.
First, maintain that justice has no existence.
JUST DISCOURSE
Has no existence?
UNJUST DISCOURSE
No existence! Why, where is it?
JUST DISCOURSE
With the gods.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
How then, if justice exists, was Zeus not put to death for
having put his father in chains?
JUST DISCOURSE
Bah! this is enough to turn my stomach! A basin, quick!
UNJUST DISCOURSE
You are an old driveller and stupid withal.
JUST DISCOURSE
And you a degenerate and shameless fellow.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
Hah! What sweet expressions!
JUST DISCOURSE
An impious buffoon.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
You crown me with roses and with lilies.
JUST DISCOURSE
A parricide.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
Why, you shower gold upon me.
JUST DISCOURSE
Formerly it was a hailstorm of blows.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
I deck myself with your abuse.
JUST DISCOURSE
What impudence!
UNJUST DISCOURSE
What tomfoolery!
JUST DISCOURSE
It is because of you that the youth no longer attends the schools.
The Athenians will soon recognize what lessons you teach those who are
fools enough to believe you.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
You are overwhelmed with wretchedness.
JUST DISCOURSE
And you, you prosper. Yet you were poor when you said, "I am
the Mysian Telephus," and used to stuff your wallet with maxims of Pandeletus
to nibble at.
UNJUST DISCOURSE
Oh! the beautiful wisdom, of which you are now boasting!
JUST DISCOURSE